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Drove out to Clear Spring for some Mahogany and look what I found! 13' long and 28+" wide. I really needed to share this pic with people who could appreciate it!



Here's a shot at the board next to my diminutive 1200 lb planer.



All in all I got nine boards from Hicksville with the narrowest being 17".

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Would really like to see the pic's but don't have permission,
according to the note in the post.

Duan

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Duan Packard
Kerrville, Texas

dum vivimus, vivamus

JIM M : What CLIPPER said! Me too. Big boards that nice have to be for a special project. Comment?

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newtooth 311
Rochester, MN

What a tease!
Tell us all about it and then don't let us see the pictures!
Are they "X" rated?

Rog

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I spent most of my money on woodworking
tools and beer, the rest I just wasted.

Sorry about that. I keep forgetting there is a screwy pecking order with this new board and I haven't figured it out yet. Have to go out for dinner but will fix (maybe) when I get back.

Jim

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Is it fixed yet?

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JIM M : YUP WOW !!! Those are some boards. Plans?

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newtooth 311
Rochester, MN

That is truly a find! and gets you a "YOU SUCK"

I could only see one board but it is beautiful....whatcha gonna do with it??

Don

Nice! How thick are those?
Zulu

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Wow, those are really something else! Can hardly imagine what those set ya back.

Nice score.

Well, the 8/4 mahogany is for 3 sets of french doors and three sets of casement windows. They go in a hexagonal pool house yet to be built in a clients back yard. Since the owners want all the construction done before the end of summer, I have to get started now.

As for price, young Robert at Hicksville charged me $4.65 per foot and the nine boards totaled over 350 bf, requiring two trips to the lumber yard in my little Toyota Tacoma. Even though it isn't my money, it's still rewarding to feel you got a good deal.

Jim

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I do have one question about the job perhaps you guys can help me with. Originally the client wanted to see the wood grain both inside and outside, but I counseled against it with the belief that a clear finish on the outside would require regular, costly maintenance. The architect has little eave overhang, and especially the doors would get regular doses of direct sunlight and rain.

So now the plan is to paint the mahogany on the outside with latex, and then use a clear lacquer or varnish on the inside. Does everyone agree with that?

Jim

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Jim, it's probably the right for to do maintenance wise, but it is a shame to cover that beautiful wood with paint. Maybe an oil finish outside that does need refreshing, but is quick and easy to do. I guess it comes down to what the owners are willing to accept.

It is a shame that you have to cover it up, but.

I had a house that had a west facing door. It always looked sad by the end of the summer and needed refreshing prior to winter.
The good thing was the porch sheltered it except for driving rain.

I expect that the latex will need some touchup every few years. I do not know what would really stand up to UV, even cars fade and they probably have the toughest paint system out there.

John

Jim,
I have first hand experience with this.
I had some very expensive mahogany doors made a few years ago. I insisted on just clear lacquer on both sides. No stain.
I even installed a 3' overhang over each set of doors to keep the splash off.

I have had a devil of a time. They get wet no matter the overhang. They don't get direct sun but the water is enough.
I have refinished both sets of these doors.
Look at the bottom of them and you can see the water damage and rot that I had to try to fix.
It didn't fix too well.
The big doors are 4' wide each! That's an 8' opening!

If I had to do it over again, I would have purchased fiberglass doors.

Zulu

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Hey Jim,
I built a mahogany screen door 8 years ago that has overlooked the Pacific all this time. I used Waterlox Marine Sealer and Finish. It gets a yearly re-coating and it still looks like new. You might call the folks there to get some tips. http://www.waterlox.com/default.aspx

good luck,
Don

Hi Don,
A few years ago I made 4 exterior doors for this same client and one of them was finished with marine varnish. It's still holding up but it almost never gets direct sun or rain. Can't remember if it was Waterlox or not but from what I can tell, they have a good reputation.

I asked the clients if they wanted to do a marine finish on these new doors and they said no after I told them all that it would entail. There are 96 divided lights in the design. Sanding and cutting in/taping around all that glass would be very expensive, especially if it had be done every year. So, they decided on paint for outside. If I could find a clear finish with a 5 year re-finish cycle....

Zulu,
It doesn't look to me that you have a finish problem with your doors. The surfaces away from the joints and bottom edges look absolutely spectacular. I would suspect you have a joinery problem and they used the wrong adhesive. This looks especially true with the single light doors. In addition, both doors look like they were trimmed at the bottom to fit the threshold. Even when the bottom is finished thoroughly, it's bound to fail if water gets in there. When rain is an issue, I like a 3/16"+ gap at the bottom and a silicone sweep inlaid in the door bottom. This place have the best stuff: http://www.conservationtechnology.com

So... paint on the outside, natural on the inside... unless you go with fiberglass!

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Jim.
I visited the folks with that screen door today and inspected it.....the interior side of the door has never been refinished. It is only the exterior that gets refinished.....it is exposed to sun, salt and marine layer moisture daily. Sanding isn't necessary for applying refinish...thorough rub down with a green scrubby and wipe down to remove dust. The interior side got one coat of sealer and 4 coats of marine finish 8 years ago. I waxed it thoroughly 2 weeks after installing it and it has gotten light waxing occasionally since.
I've used waterlox on several interior projects. Gail (past member of WWA and apprentice for John Lucas) turned me on to Waterlox many years ago. She used it extensively....as I recall....one of the projects she used it on was a desk which she posted her, and another was a custom book case....all interior projects.

good luck.

Don

Yeah... I hear you, but they aren't going to go for it even if I don't have to tape off the glass. Although, it would be a measure of job security!

But I might try it on the inside of the doors. Can it be sprayed?

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It can be sprayed but it applies so easily with a brush, especially over the sealer, that I never considered it. Seems to me to be an even easier finish than paint and with beautiful mahogany I would consider it sacrilege to paint it......just me, though.




Can't tell much from the photos but it has withstood the test of time.

good luck,

Don